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January 07, 2009


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Inspiring, Barry! "Kuei Shan is over six hundred miles from Mt. T’ai; how then did Iron Grindstone Liu want to have Kuei Shan go to the feast? " That's what this all is about. Thank you.


Thanks, Uku. I hope you enjoy your feast!



Thank you, Barry. I'm enjoying. I hope you're too?

Taru Sharma

Good one, Barry. I had read this somewhere else a few months back and was completely puzzeled. I was like - what does she mean that she wants the old monk to go with her? Now, after several months, it stands in a completely different light...:-) No coming, no going, there is no need even to move an inch from your place. Everything is right here.

Ted Biringer

Hello Barry,

Thanks for this post. One of my fav's from the Blue Cliff - and one of the few Zen koans portraying the truth that women adherents are no less enlightened and creative than men.

Iron Grinder Liu arrived at Kuei Shan's place. Kuei Shan said, "Old cow, so you've come?"

--Kuei Shan wants to see if Iron Grindstone is truly paying attention--

The Grinder said, "Tomorrow there's a great communal feast on T'ai Shan. Are you going to go, Teacher?"

--Ha, ha! She easily turns the tables on the old guy. What are you saying, Kuie Shan, with all this nonsense about 'coming' and 'going'?--

Kuei Shan relaxed his body and lay down.

--Good thing Kuei Shan had this move or he might have tasted the Iron Grindstone's scorn--

The Grinder immediately left.

--All members in the same nose-hole family. Seeing that everything was in order, Iron Grindstone continued on with the task at hand.--

Ted Biringer


Hi Ted, Thank you for your delightful comments on this old story.

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